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  	    A Model for Integrating Generations - Young 
		Surveyors Working Group
		Mr. Cemal Özgür KIVILCIM, Turkey and Ms. Chris 
		McALISTER, Australia
		
		  
		Cemal Özgür Kivilcim 
		
		 
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		1) This paper has been prepared and 
		presented at the FIG Working Week in Stockholm, Sweden 14-19 June 2008. 
		Key words: Education, Curriculum, Young Surveyors, 
		Professional Standards, YS, Continuing Professional Development, FIG WG 
		1.2. 
		SUMMARY 
		During recent years, FIG has struggled to attract students and young 
		professionals. This has been an ongoing challenge for both the council 
		and corporate members. In order to establish a connection between the 
		young and experienced professionals, meetings were held between young 
		surveyors and FIG members during the recent FIG Congress in Munich, as 
		well as FIG Working Weeks. During these meetings, the need to improve 
		networking and provide the right platform for youth to become involved 
		with FIG became clear. A new Working Group under Commission 1 with the 
		co-operation of Commission 2 was established - The Young Surveyors (YS) 
		WG 1.2, the official representative unit for those individuals who are 
		at the early stages of their career. This paper introduces a model and 
		critical points to establish such Working Groups for non-governmental, 
		national and international professional organizations dedicated to young 
		professionals. Additionally, the paper introduces the Young Surveyors 
		Working Group; their mission, worldwide network, benefits of youth in 
		FIG, recent established activities and long term aims as a model for 
		similar structures.  
		1. INTRODUCTION 
		The origin of the surveying profession can be seen in the first 
		recorded history. From the regulations written by the Egyptian Pharaohs 
		and what is left from their works, we can learn how the first known 
		surveyors were valuable to their civilizations. We are still able to see 
		many of the wonders of the ancient and medieval world; such as ancient 
		Giza Pyramids seen in the Figure 1, Acropolis in Greece or Saint Sofia 
		in Turkey. There is no doubt that the very welcomed surveyors played 
		significant roles for erecting such time resistant monuments. As we move 
		through time to the 2000s, when this paper is written, many rapid 
		scientific and technical changes globally have affected the world of 
		surveying. With changes in not only survey technologies, but in computer 
		technologies, we have been gifted tools such as laser scanners, combined 
		total stations with GPS, and satellites that can provide both clear 
		imagery and our position on the earth’s surface. With the changes in 
		technology, pressures and demands on the surveying profession to provide 
		new visions and ideas also came from our societies. Maps, which used to 
		be one of the final products of surveyors for centuries, now turned to 
		steps in much large processes; Geographic Information Systems, virtual 
		3-D city-models.  
		
		  
		Fig.1 A view from Pyramids, Giza - Egypt  
		Today, the profession is facing many difficulties - even describing 
		the exact role of the surveyor in a community. This has also brought 
		forward issues such as providing a sufficient number of highly qualified 
		professionals trained to higher education levels. A noticeable decrease 
		in young people not only undertaking training as surveyors, but joining 
		FIG has made this a global issue.  
		In this paper, some of the major problems of the profession 
		concerning the youth are described. The issue of dedicating time and 
		resources to form a working group dedicated to the future of the 
		tomorrow’s profession are also introduced from the point of the young 
		professionals. The first year of the working group is evaluated with 
		ideas and experiences provided for local application.  
		2. DEFINING THE PROBLEM 
		With the technical and scientific developments in the fields of 
		information technology, satellite imaging and positioning techniques, 
		the profession has also extended its capacity and borders within the new 
		scientific areas. In recent years, studies and papers on the topics of 
		professional standards and curricular developments indicate the global 
		trends are to change the major infrastructure and education systems of 
		surveyors, even including the name of the profession in many 
		universities and institutions. So why are all these challenging moves 
		being taken? MAHONEY, PLIMMER, HANNAH, KAVANAGH (2007) explain the 
		current situation of surveyors from various countries as “Associated 
		with this demand for surveyors is the problem faced in many countries, 
		namely, how to attract the very best students, into the surveying 
		profession. The public perception of surveyors is varied, and the 
		reality is that we have an extremely low public profile when compared to 
		other professions, except in a very few surveying specialists. Having 
		attracted students, the challenge then becomes one of providing an 
		educational program that not only retains the interest of these 
		Generation Y1 young people, but also encourages them to become skilled 
		and resourceful professional practitioners. For over a decade, almost 
		every surveying degree program in Australia has struggled to attract its 
		full quota of students.”  
		On the other hand, new higher education possibilities are being 
		established for the candidates of the surveying profession in some 
		developing countries such as Turkey. In recent years, especially after 
		the earthquake hit modern Turkey’s industrialized region, the demand 
		converted surveying in a more popular occupation. Recently, new 
		universities established Geodesy and Photogrammetry departments, thus 
		the overall student quota increased in the country. This also brought 
		about some concerns and serious discussions relating to the quality of 
		the professionals and standards they adhere to.  
		The conditions described show that different countries have different 
		demands, but overall the trend is that surveyors are a dying breed. 
		Hence, the issue of attracting students to surveying and FIG has been 
		initialized and outlined by the FIG Council’s schedule for the term 
		2006-2010.  
		Taking a global approach, the newest working group of FIG, which is 
		also the youngest one, has been formed to promote the profession to 
		students and establish the necessity bridge for the youth of the 
		surveying professional, aiming to provide a sustainable future of 
		surveying.  
		3. BENEFITS OF YOUTH IN THE ORGANIZATION 
		No organisation or business can survive without some new blood, and 
		surveying is no exception. Younger generations can often provide an 
		enthusiasm and passion for their work that may have been lost in older 
		employees. They bring new ideas and are often willing to uptake new 
		technologies more readily. But it is a symboitic relationship – FIG also 
		plays a role in assisting the youth. They make programs such as 
		international exchanges possible, and also presenting a world stage 
		where individual problems and issues can be overcome with literally a 
		world of knowledge.  
		The diminishing number of surveyors is not a localised or national 
		problem, it is a global problem. Some of the problem may be due to a 
		loss of identity, but the definition of a surveyor is being rewritten by 
		the youth. They are embracing new technologies as quickly as they are 
		released, and can provide innovative solutions to old problems. No 
		longer is a surveyor just one who reads angles, but they are now able to 
		provide a variety of services using a huge array of spatial 
		technologies.  
		The downside of young people being in a profession where the demand 
		is far outstriping the capability to provide is that younger people may 
		develop an attitude and approach to gaining employment that doesn’t sit 
		well with employers. They can very direct on what the future holds and 
		also what kind of financial return they will receive for their efforts, 
		and this is sometimes interpreted by employers as arrogance and 
		disrespect. Potential employers can often, and quite rightly, find 
		younger people lacking in corporate behaviour which is not conjucive to 
		an outstanding employee. Both parties may simply need to accept the 
		positives the other party can bring, while trying to improve their 
		conception of the other. These problems can be overcome by opening lines 
		of communication where neither party is forced to judge or be judged by 
		the other, and both can come to understand each other, and appreciate 
		the skills and knowledge that they possess.  
		One of the roles of the Young Surveyors group is to open these lines 
		of communication, which will ultimately benefit both the individual and 
		the surveying profession as a whole.  
		4. THE HISTORY AND FUTURE OF THE YOUNG SURVEYORS 
		“The numerous number of opportunities, Technology based, up to 
		date education of geodetic institutes, e-learning projects and Exchange 
		programs such as International Association of Exchange of Students for 
		Technical Experience-IAESTE and European Union Higher Education Exchange 
		Program-Erasmus are the means to improve their (the students) skills”.
		KIVILCIM, TATLI, GÜNEŞ (2007)  
		Under this borderless idea, it was inevitable that FIG would have to 
		establish a student and young professionals group made up of a globally 
		diverse mix if it were to remain in contact with younger generations and 
		secure it’s own future as well as that of the surveying profession. 
		Discussions starting in the early 2000s amongst members of FIG stemed 
		the idea of a special group dedicated to this very role, finally coming 
		to fruition in 2006. Furthermore, many student organisations, including 
		the International Geodetic Students Organization, ISPRS Student 
		Consortium, regional student organizations such as ARGEOS (German Spoken 
		Countries Geodetic Students Union), Spatial Students Working Action 
		Group (Australia) and university student clubs have shown marked 
		improvements on the importance placed on youth participation and 
		involvement. Some baselines have been established, including in Turkey 
		with the Young Surveyors’ Days, which are a 3 day activity for surveyors 
		of all ages to get together.  
		One of the first significant steps of attracting students into the 
		FIG Society was a small meeting which was held during the working week 
		in Egypt the year of 2005. With the motto “Shape the Change” the FIG 
		XXIII. Congress in Munich 2006, support for students was shown with 
		special student registration fees and a meeting session dedicated solely 
		to international students. During this session, international 
		experiences and ideas were discussed and the demands of the Young 
		Surveyors were loudly expressed. After the FIG Congress in Munich, the 
		Students and Young Professionals working group was established with the 
		support and encourage of FIG Council and its members. The first board of 
		the Young Surveyors was established, comprised of experienced 
		individuals from all over the globe. Each member had their own unique 
		knowledge gained from local, regional and global experiences.  
		The FIG Working Week in Hong Kong in 2007 introduced the Students and 
		Young Professionals group, and set out their aims and goals. Within the 
		official program of the Working Week, a session for young surveyors was 
		held by the FIG board and the members of the recently established 
		Working Group-1.2 of Commission 1 and as a Joint Working Group with 
		Commission 2. During the session, the need and the vision required to 
		integrate the youth of the profession to FIG were presented, as well as 
		the mission of the working group and examples of how they planned to 
		move forward. The oral presentation titled “Experiences from Student 
		Networks” by Cemal Özgür Kıvılcım was also found valuable, and was 
		awarded by FIG Com.8 members under the theme “the issues concerning 
		the future”. The original name: ”Students and young professionals” 
		was also changed to “Young Surveyors”, derived from Turkish Young 
		Surveyors’ Days. This name was more encompassing, presented a united 
		front for students and young professionals, and also paid respect to the 
		FIG name.  
		Over the course of the working week, the new members of the group met 
		several times in order to shape the structure of the Working Group, as 
		well as to discover more about each other’s experiences. It was 
		determined that the group should belong to the young graduates, 
		academics, professionals, undergraduate and graduate students who would 
		lead the future of surveying. The establishing members of the Young 
		Surveyors group were from Sweden (Chair), Germany, Turkey, Poland and 
		Australia.  
		
		  
		Figure 2. The WG board members with the Com.1 Chair Yaacoub Saade 
		and Vice President Dr. Dalal S. Alnaggar in Hong Kong WW, 2007  
		In the following months, the group organized its next meeting – to be 
		held in Cairo in November 2007. This meeting was themed “The 
		contribution of the young Surveyors to the Society”, and was 
		supported by FIG Vice President Dr Dalal Alnaggar and Commission 1 chair 
		Yaacoub Saade, as well as FIG council and commissions and corporate 
		members.  
		This meeting was very successful, with members from Sweden, Germany, 
		Turkey, Australia and Egypt attending. During the meeting, the Young 
		Surveyors group drafted their Master Plan, which outlined their visions 
		and goals for the next 2 years.  
		5. VISION, PURPOSE AND ROLES OF THE YOUNG SURVEYORS 
		Vision: “To make FIG known to Young Surveyors and increase 
		the participation of young surveyors in FIG events” (FIG YS Workplan). 
		This vision is vital for not only for the immediate future of FIG, but 
		also to ensure that a professional body exists for future generations of 
		surveyors.  
		Purpose: FIG has a long history of providing world class 
		service to it’s global network of members, and the role of the Young 
		Surveyor in it’s future is vital. The Young Surveyors group is a 
		mechanism not only to promote FIG to young surveyors around the world, 
		but also to ensure that their voice is heard. It also provides a 
		critical link in the continuum of knowledge – FIG can provide a platform 
		where young and old can exchange ideas and knowledge, ultimately to the 
		benefit of the surveying profession. 
		
		  
		Figure 3. The role of the Young Surveyor is a critical link in 
		the professional chain.  
		Goals: The goals of the Young Surveyors are: 
		
			- Promote the benefits of participating in FIG events to young 
			surveyors for professional development.
 
			- Attract young surveyors with simple activities that allow 
			delegates to specifically build useful networks.
 
			- Provide opportunities for delegates to obtain advices on getting 
			funding and sponsorship (external to FIG) that will allow them to 
			participate in FIG events in particular, congresses and working 
			weeks.
 
			- Promote and encourage the production and presentation of 
			technical papers by Young Surveyors at FIG events. 
 
		 
		Roles and Responsibilities: A number of roles were identified 
		as being critical to run the Young Surveyors. The roles were modelled 
		off the existing FIG council, commissions and working groups. The 
		positions, their responsibilities and current holders are outlined 
		below.  
		Chair – Cecilia Lindén, Sweden 
		The head of the Young Surveyors. Is responsible for contact and 
		communication with FIG officials, and to report back to the group. The 
		chair is also responsible for the distribution of information, chairing 
		meetings and delegating jobs to other members of the Young Surveyors.
		 
		Vice Chair – Thorsten Schwing, Germany 
		Major role is to support the Chair and fill in for the Chair in their 
		absence. The Vice-Chair is also responsible for collecting and collating 
		information about the workings of each commission and passing it on to 
		other group members.  
		Secretary - Cemal Özgür Kıvılcım, Turkey 
		Is responsible for the publication of the quarterly newsletter of the 
		group as well as providing and preparing information for publications 
		and presentations to be made by the group. Is also the contact person 
		for new members, and the newsletter and communications database.  
		Events Coordinator – Christian Tufvesson, Sweden 
		Responsible for organizing the events at FIG working weeks, congresses 
		and functions. As responsible for making contact with the local young 
		surveyors group or organisation and facilitating their contribution to 
		the FIG event.  
		Sponsorship – Roman Pieczka, Poland 
		Responsible for organising sponsorship of the Young Surveyors group such 
		that it can have regular meetings and provide adequate services to Young 
		Surveyors worldwide. Is also responsible for the monitoring of monies in 
		and out of the group.  
		Marketing – Chris McAlister, Australia and Kate Fairlie, Australia 
		Responsible for the provision of marketing materials, products, events 
		and direct communication to increase the profile of not only the Young 
		Surveyors, but FIG. The marketing role is also responsible for 
		establishing key programs, such as the Mentor program.  
		Group Members 
		These are those who are not on the executive, but participate in the 
		workings of the Young Surveyors, and are vital to the success of the 
		group.  
		6. INITIATIVES & SUCCESSES OF THE GROUP 
		While the first official meeting of the WG can be accepted as the 
		meeting at the Hong Kong Working week, the meeting in Cairo in 2007was 
		the first chance for the group to meet and establish a path for it’s 
		future activities.  
		In this technology based world, the first move was to establish and 
		official Young Surveyors FIG website (http://www.fig.net/commission1/wgroups/wg2_06_10.htm). 
		The website allows for a central point of information distribution and 
		communication – including events, newsletters, papers, photos and 
		reports.  
		Communications were identified as a key issue - two distinctly 
		separate streams of communications needed to be established, one for the 
		committee members, and one for general group members and other interest 
		parties. Group executive members now communicate primarily through a 
		Yahoo! Group, and have Skype meetings fortnightly. Communication to 
		other group members and other parties is also done through a separate 
		Yahoo! Group, and the Young Surveyors official FIG website. Other 
		communication avenues, such as podcasts and RSS streams are also being 
		explored.  
		Another step was creating a unique, recognisable logo for the group. 
		It was decided that it should honour the FIG logo by maintaining the 
		colours and general layout, but put a Young Surveyors spin on it. The 
		result was the FIG Young Surveyors flame, seen below in Figure 4. 
		
		  
		Fig.4 The FIG YS Logo designed by group members 
		One of the most noticeable, and possibly the largest communication 
		tool is the Young Surveyors newsletter. As a policy this newsletter 
		includes the workings and activities, photos and profiles of the group, 
		and is published quarterly per year. So far two issues of Young 
		Surveyors has been published and a special issue is in publication:.  
		One other key project that will come to fruition in Stockholm Working 
		Week 2008 is the speed mentoring program. Similar to speed dating, young 
		surveyors have a few minutes to talk to older surveyors (referred to as 
		‘wise ones’) about anything career or profession related before rotating 
		to the next ‘wise one’. This has been a successful event several times 
		when run in Australia, and hopefully Stockholm will provide similar 
		positive outcomes.  
		7. DIFFICULTIES FACED 
		As with any volunteer group, there are difficulties finding people, 
		time and money to undertake the work of the group. The Young Surveyors 
		group is no different, but have the addition obstacle of its members 
		being scattered all over the globe. This problem has been overcome 
		through the use of Skype, the internet phone service. Members of the 
		group meet for a teleconference style meeting once a fortnight, and 
		while the meeting is often late a night for those in Europe, it is 
		counter balanced by being early in the morning for those on the other 
		side of the world.  
		Fortuitously for the Young Surveyors group, its members all have a 
		passion for their profession, and are quite active in their own 
		countries and regions. While the addition of membership on the Young 
		Surveyors may be seen as an addition burden to already busy people, the 
		members of the committee see their role as a chance to further their 
		profession and personal careers, while providing an essential service to 
		other Young Surveyors.  
		The introduction of a Young Surveyors group was initially view with 
		scepticism by some members of FIG, but thanks largely to FIG council 
		support and positive action of the group, it has prospered and is 
		growing every day. The hosting of events at working weeks at congress, 
		securing student registrations, and providing electronic communication 
		on a regular basis will further serve to get rid of any last remaining 
		scepticism on the groups viability.  
		8. OUTLINE OF FUTURE – WHERE TO FROM HERE? 
		The working group is the bridge between the past and future of the 
		profession– it allows and promotes the Continuum of knowledge of FIG to 
		be passed from generation to generation. The young surveyors group will 
		continue to actively facilitate, communicate and market FIG to the 
		younger generations, while also providing the opportunities for young 
		surveyors to become actively involved in the workings of FIG. For this 
		to occur, the Young surveyors will need to be active at on local, 
		regional, national and global stages. This will be achieved through 
		maintaining a global group that will communicate regularly and provide a 
		world of knowledge and resources to those who need them.  
		Meetings such as those held in Hong Kong and Cairo will continue; 
		Stockholm in 2008, Sydney in 2010 and plans for WG meeting in Turkey in 
		2009. These events will continue to allow the evolution of the group, 
		while building a fantastic knowledge base from people all around the 
		world. Promoting the needs and interest of FIG younger members, through 
		student registration to events, specific student sessions and encourage 
		student paper submissions will also allow the goals of the Young 
		Surveyors to be achieved.  
		Like other working groups and commissions, the success of the Young 
		Surveyors lies with its members. To date, members have been passionate, 
		enthusiastic and driven to contribute to the vision, purpose and goals 
		of the group, and there is no reason to believe that this won’t 
		continue. With the ongoing support of the FIG council, members and 
		corporate sponsors, the Young Surveyors group should flourish in the 
		future.  
		9. CONCLUSION 
		The FIG WG 1.2, known as the Young Surveyors, is a step towards 
		understanding and taking part in a changing world. The new era of 
		technology, science and information will rise in the hands of today’s 
		students and young professionals. This technology, combined with our 
		professional skills will benefit not only the built and urban 
		environments, but mankind as a whole. The new roles of the surveying in 
		society need to be clearly defined for the profession to market itself, 
		and to avoid extinction, but this can only be achieved with the help of 
		all members of surveying and by combining the experiences of the “old” 
		and passion of the “young” surveyors.  
		The contribution of both individuals and regional and local societies 
		from all around the world is a necessity to ensure a healthy future for 
		FIG. The FIG Young Surveyors group belongs to neither a group nor a 
		country and therefore is open to all, no matter where they are from. It 
		is the peak of representation of the youth in surveying. All are welcome 
		to join, and are encouraged to help in the development and progression 
		of the group. This progress at a global level will allow the FIG Young 
		Surveyors to assist in growing healthy and sustainable local, regional 
		and national Young Surveyors group, hence ensuring the future of 
		surveying globally.  
		ACKNOWLEDGMENT 
		The authors would like to thank to the support of the FIG Council and 
		corporate members for their support to establish and support the 
		activities of WG1.2. Also, especially to the founder of the Turkish 
		Republic, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk who addressed a friendship relation 
		between two countries Australia and Turkey after the WWI. His ideal for 
		a modern country with a sentence can be also considered as the role of 
		the FIG YS in FIG: “All my hope is in the new generation”  
		The Young Surveyors working group would like to thank FIG and all its 
		members for believing in them and for helping them to create the future.
		 
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		BIOGRAPHICAL NOTES 
		Cemal Özgür Kıvılcım, is a MSc Student at Istanbul Technical 
		University Geomatics Program. He is currently an engineer Geodesy and 
		Photogrammetry Engineer at Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality, 
		Directorate of Historical Sites Protection.  
		During the recent years he participated and was member of organizing 
		committees of student related national and international organizations 
		for Surveyors. He is a participant in recent IGSO, ARGEOS, Young 
		Surveyors’ Days meetings, He is one of the founder members of ISPRS 
		Student Consortium, IAESTE-Turkey Student Association, FIG Young 
		Surveyors and worked as an Erasmus student assistant during his studies. 
		He is an active member of FIG Young Surveyors, ISPRS Student Consortium 
		and Turkish Chamber of Surveyors and Cadastre Engineers.  
		Chris McAlister completed her Bachelor and Master of 
		Engineering at University of New South Wales in 2005. She is currently a 
		surveyor at the Environmental Protection Agency and Queensland Parks and 
		Wildlife, Queensland, Australia. 
		Chris was president of the student society at UNSW during her final 
		year, and has continued to remain involved through the Spatial Students 
		Working Action Group. She is the university coordinator on the Young 
		Professional’s committee of the Spatial Sciences Institute Queensland, 
		and is a Young Ambassador for FIG2010.  
		CONTACTS 
		Mr Cemal Özgür Kıvılcım 
		IBB Tarihi Cevre Koruma Mudurlugu 
		Rustempasa Mah. Asmaalti Cad.  
		Kirazhan Eminonu, Istanbul 
		TURKEY 
		Email: kcemalozgur@hotmail.com
		 
		Tel.+ 90 212 52287 20  
		Ms Chris McAlister 
		EPA/QPW 
		PO Box 15155 
		City East, 4002 
		AUSTRALIA 
		Email: 
		chris.mcalister@epa.qld.gov.au
		 
		Fax: + 61 7 3224 7237 
		
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